Last night the three Republican candidates for the 18th Congressional District participated in another debate — this one sponsored by the Peoria Young Republicans and televised live on WMBD-TV. Video clips of the debate are supposed to be posted on centralillinoisproud.com sometime today.
The candidates gave opening statements, then answered one question on a litany of topics ranging from agriculture to education. After each round of questions, the candidates had an opportunity for rebuttal. There was no opportunity for the candidates to ask each other questions.
I thought Schock and McConoughey tied as winners of this debate. I’ve been very disappointed with Morris. His answers lack substance on many issues, and he makes up for it with rhetoric and doublespeak. He seems preoccupied with trying to get in little jabs at Schock.
One need look no further than the first question for a perfect example. It was about the farm bill. Schock said he would like to see a stronger safety net for farmers and increased promotion of ethanol. McConoughey wants to fully fund risk insurance, and talked about what he’s already done to help farmers by creating a Port district to help reduce input and output costs. Morris? Oh, he’s “excited about representing farmers,” he’s going to “work hard to protect the interests of farmers and America’s food supply,” and he’s going to “continue to work with farmers.” And he’s “known farmers his entire life.” His whole answer went on and on like this. That’s called doublespeak, and it tells me that he doesn’t know anything about the farm bill, whereas Schock and McConoughey do.
On the next question, on foreign policy, Morris said he has a “full-blown proposal on national security.” Unfortunately, he didn’t share any of it at this debate. He said we need a “serious approach to foreign policy.” We need to “support our troops” and “get the job done.” He said that we shouldn’t de-fund the troops. He mentioned a second time that he has a “full-blown proposal.” And he used his rebuttal time to blast Schock for his nukes-to-Taiwan faux pas again. Schock and McConoughey, in contrast, offered specific policy initiatives that went beyond just Iraq, but also included securing our borders.
The whole debate was like this. I really don’t understand those who are coming away from these debates as big Morris supporters. I like Morris personally, and I was actually hoping to like his positions and support him in this race, but after hearing his answers in these debates, I’ve been driven to support McConoughey instead. I thought McConoughey spoke much better this time — this might be because this is the first time I’ve seen him while he was speaking (which makes a difference). The last debate was on the radio.
Schock is clearly a bright guy, and if it weren’t for a couple of things I might have been able to support him. But I really can’t trust a guy who lied to the Illinois House about Senate Bill 2477, saying the entire city council supported it, and helped push through a bill that was in essence a property tax increase on Peoria residents. Remember that when he says he’s for lower taxes — he strongly supported a bill that gave District 150 the ability to raise your property taxes without a referendum through the Public Building Commission. And of course, the nukes-to-Taiwan thing showed some frightening lack of judgment.
McConoughey isn’t the perfect candidate. He was a little weak on the education question, not seeming to understand “No Child Left Behind” very well. He either forgot to answer or evaded the same-sex marriage question. But of the three Republican candidates, I would trust him the most to represent me in Congress. He has the best understanding of economic and agricultural issues of the three, he’s strong on national defense, and he’s conservative on social issues.
I say, vote for Jim.
I totally agree with you on every point. Wow!
I was leaning toward Jim McConoughey and now I’ve decided for him.
I agree 100% about Morris. He looks desperate; he speaks in over-the-top goofy rhetoric; and appears to think that the only way he can ascend is to bring Schock down. Aaron is doing a good enough job on his own regarding that.
Jim comes off extremely trustworthy, but just about to fall asleep. Aaron comes off as ready to hit the ground running, and not let up. Too bad we can’t take the best qualities of both.
I won’t be taking out a Republican ballot, but I’d have to say that I’d be leaning towards Jim, as well, if I did. He’s sort of folksy, drowsy, and appears to be smart and solid, in a Mayberry sort of way. Maybe that’s what we need.
Problem is this: Morris and Jim won’t be doing each other any favors in the voting booth. I wish that Morris had never run for the danged thing, so that voters would get a true choice between two candidates. I’m afraid Aaron will sneak in, because he’ll be able to get 40% of the vote, and the other two will likely split the remaining 60%.
Aaron really shot himself in the bazooba with his “just a joke” take on nukes in Taiwan. That just might be the most stupid statement by a local politician in recent memory. Crazy as it sounds, it very well MIGHT cost him this election.
And, THAT would be funny.
Okay, impersonator. WHERE IS THE REAL PREGO AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH HIM???
I completely agree with your thoughts about Morris! However, I think that Aaron’s answers were far superior to Jim’s. I went into the debate liking Morris the best, Jim 2nd and Schock 3rd. Now I would NEVER vote for John Morris, and will probably vote for Aaron Shock despite his Taiwan blunder. He was well spoken, intelligent and seemed to be the right candidate to get things done in Washington.
11Bravo, I was wrong about Jim McCono-whatever… or so it appears. I questioned why he even got into this race. I did not understand how you go from his business level to wanting to be a U.S. Congressman. It did not make sense. I was left to think that he had to be an opportunist, with an ego the size of Maine.
Per my previous explanations, I am wrong 66.75% of the time. As of now, I will admit I was wrong about Jim McCono-whatever. I know that Aaron is slick… he’s a borderline consummate politician… but, I’m not so sure that is what is best for Central Illinois. I’d kind of like to have a guy like Jim in there. I like his style… or, more to the point, his LACK of style. He seems very genuine, and I like that. I still cannot take out a Republican ballot, under any circustances… but for all of you doggoned Republicans out there… I believe this is one of the few times I am absolutely right in my assessments of… of… well, whatever…
Vote for Jim.
Any support for Morris evaporated when he went after Schock swiping Reagan’s famous “There you go again…” line (to Carter). And not only did he say it, he actually seemed to try to impersonate Reagan. I understand that that was his intention – to blatantly, if humorously “borrow” from Reagan. But it came off as contrived. Bad, bad move.
Schock was good: solid and comfortable speaking, good on camera (better, ironically, than Morris), ignored Morris’ too-virulent attacks, actually looked at the others when they spoke, didn’t shake his head or make faces as others spoke.
McC. was good: seemed genuine (didn’t play the camera the entire time), stayed out of Morris’ “get Schock” fray, smiled, and had very good answers (save the abortion-same sex-something-something-something question*) that were unique from Schock and far deeper/meaningful than Morris.
Morris reinforced his current supporters, and lost everyone else: patronizing, on the attack, looked disinterred and angry for it, shallow, and desperate.
This race is between Schock and McM., and I’m now less of the opinion that McC. and Morris might cancel each other out vs. Schock.
* – Note: the questions were WAY too long, who knew if they answered the questions when the viewer couldn’t even remember them.
What I have noticed about Jim is that he seems to think before he answers a question & doesnt immediately start with the doublespeak & bragging on himself. He also doesn’t speak too quickly so you have a hard time remembering what he said.
These comments about McConoughey are as phony as his resume. They are as bogus as his claims to be wealthy. They are as baseless as his claims to have been a successful businessman. For cryin’ out loud, they are fake as Aaron Schock’s tan! McConoughey made a fool of himself last night. His performance reminded me of Stockdale: “Who am I? Why am I here?” Good questions. He should get out of the race before he wastes anymore of his “fortune”!
C’mon Folks: Sorry but I think you are the only person that feels that way. If you don’t believe me, check out the previous comments and those that will follow. You are the minority
C’mon folks is taking a line from the Morris play book, if you realize you have no substance and no chance to win then attack, attack, attack!
I think listening to the debate I would say I respectfully disagree with what folks are saying here.
1) Morris is a far better communicator than McConoughey and slightly better than Schock. When it comes to how something is said he just says it better.
2) I am not sure where the lack of substance arguments come in. These are political debates. Tough to say lack of substance and pull five or six quotes out when no “subtance” is put forth as to what other candidates say. I think each of the candidates have plenty of rhetoric moments when there is less substance and things are more bland.
3)You look at their three websites side by side for substance and without question Morris articulates his stances on the issues better than the other candidates.
4) McConoughey moved here 4 years ago to run for office. Schock is just interested in the next move up. That is obvious. See ya, district 150. See ya, State House where so many worked hard to take a seta for the republican house. Morris is a lifelong Peoria resident who I really think wants to serve. Maybe he’s got me fooled, but I like what he’s saying and how he is saying it.
I’m voting for Morris.
JJ: I agree with you on one point…he does have you fooled.
Morris really wants to serve…his own interests. JJ must have forgot that “My family is most important to me and I need to spend time with them” BS that Morris gave back in April.
Anonymous, You’re almost as funny as Schock. Good one. I didn’t even get done reading some of the other blogs when I came back to this one and saw you had posted already.
Vote for Morris. He is the best candidate.
For goodness sake, 11Bravo . . . grow up. Things change, people change, circumstances avail themselves, people change their minds. If John Morris can reconcile his family responsibilities and his obligations to his community, good for him. This is an opportunity of lifetime that wasn’t remotely considered when he left the Council.
And is he doing it for his own interests? Absolutely. Do you really believe that ANYONE runs for office (or vies for any job, for that matter) without the notion of promoting their own personal or even selfish interests, at least in some measure? In fact, I can’t even begin to understand what you even mean by that. Are you suggesting he’s just doing it to stroke his own ego?
No one can run a competitive campaign without some modicum of ego. To stand on a soapbox and talk about how much better you are than others, day in and day out, surrounded by sycophants, defending yourself against differing opinions, defending yourself against morons, people handing your thousands and thousands of dollars, all the while telling yourself that your ideas and skills really are the best…that takes ego. None of these contenders would tell you otherwise, unless they’re trying to sell you something.
Is Morris serving his own interests? No doubt – so is EVERYONE else who runs for office. And taking a shot at his reasons for leaving the council is nothing but a ticky-tack foul.
I was a Morris supporter until last night. I have a real problem with his 100% stance on abortion. No exception for life of the mother, rape or incest? Come on John if god-for-bid something happened to one of your female realatives you would want the goverment making the decision for you?
I also thought you came across as very angry and kind of mean.
McConaughey said he “represented 350,000 people” last night in the debate. He lied. Woodford County fired him, and Heartland Partnership’s EDC for poor representation last year. If the people in charge in one out of three counties believe they had subpar representation by McConaughey, then how is he up to representing 20 counties?
He sees everything through the prism of money. He also said he’s met a payroll and acted like he owned a business. He has never. He worked as a junior employee for a hotel development company, yet he has led people for years to beleive he personally built, financed and syndicated hotels and made a fortune doing so. That was lie too.
I have the debate on DVR. I will watch it tonight. I have a feeling I will be a little bit biased on how the candidates responded after hearing what all of you thought. I’m just glad it’s an interesting race. I’m still surprised Lahood isn’t running. Anyone know what he’s going to do next?
NewsAnchorMom: Everybody laughs at me when I say it, but my prediction is that he’ll run for mayor of Peoria.
I was at the debate last night, and was totally turned off by Morris. I had no prior negative opinions on Schock before last night, but when one of the questions was asked, he made a sideways glance to the group of staff sitting across the way that I caught, and it totally gave me the creeps…. dripped of I have this one in the bag and total arrogance.
I thought McConoughey’s answers were the best, most thoughtful, but he still has a little work to do to smooth things out.
Still, I thought he clearly won the debate when Morris went on the attack and Schock had to defend himself, with McConoughey standing on the side letting them shoot at each other, looking very much the part of the Congressman. It was fascinating to watch.
Will be interesting to see what happens in the WEEK debate Monday.
the debates (a very short, one act play): voices mumbling. the self-absrobed voice of a local tv anchor introducing meaningless local politicians. a young man smiles. it is not always smug, but the hubris is apparent. whatever happens, he knows he will be fine. whatever happens, he knows an overpaid consultant job waits in the wings. despite contray attempts, the pancake make-up cannot hide this. when he appears, the hopeful gasps mask his own.
one man’s opinion…
c.J.,
Seriously, that does make me laugh, but I can’t imagine him retiring to spend time with family. Maybe you’re on to something. He is so involved I think he’ll do something.
Ray LaHood will run for governor.
And, likely win.
Prego Man, I think you are spot on. I don’t know if it will be Governor but it will be a bigger deal than Mayor of Peoria. He thinks too much of himself to run for that level of postition. After all, he thought he could trot right over and run Bradley.
CJ – How can you say that you like Morris? That is hilarious. All you ever do is rip on the guy on this site and you’ve put him dead last for each debate…including the radio debate which if anybody heard the debate he blew away the competition.
“I was actually hoping to like his positions and support him in this race, but after hearing his answers in these debates, I’ve been driven to support McConoughey instead. I thought McConoughey spoke much better this time — this might be because this is the first time I’ve seen him while he was speaking (which makes a difference).”
Talk about lack of substance – what “positions” are you talking about? Seriously. I really am. You wrote so much, but you didn’t really say anything in your blog.
Are you talking about McConoughey’s top priority being the economy and the other two have said their top priority is national defense. For me I think that alone eliminates McConoughey from contention. How can your top priority not be the safety and well being of this country’s citizens?
And as far as him communicating better he is still a far cry from Morris and Schock in the communication department. Nobody can argue with that. He is simply not as good a public speaker. (Although I like Kip from Napoleon Dynamite the guy still sounds like him. It makes me laugh just to hear him speak. “Hey, Napoleon, why don’t you come down here and try to make me be against free trade.”)
I like what Morris did by taking off the gloves. Somebody has to call Schock out on his Dr. Strangelove like campaign comments and positions and if McConoughey or Morris thinks they are going to win this thing by sitting back and not calling Schock out then they are sadly mistaken. Aaron just picked up 750,000,000 more endorsements, including Osama Bin Laden’s. McConoughey was the one calling press conferences at the start of this thing abotu Aaron, but now…silence. Don’t get it.
If Schock wins the primary he will be in the house for another 10 years. Since he’s all about records and numbers without doing anything maybe he can be in the house for 60 years and set a new record. I can just see his tombstone, “Here LIES Aaron Schock – He did a lot and then he did more.”
After 10 years McConoughey may be too old to make another push and Morris’s window will likely be closing. Well, maybe McConoughey will just move to another city where it looks like the congressman in that district is getting ready to step down and run for congress there. I promise you that if McConoughey doesn’t win the election he will bolt this town in a matter of years and since he won’t win…best of luck in Florida, Jim.
Well, I agree with CJ. Jim is the man.
Well, one thing is for sure. At least, we know Morris is a conservative. I believe he’s stated that a few times or so.
He(Morris) also made it pretty clear he has a family – unlike the other guys. I think he said that like at least a dozen times.
Yeah he also sits down at the dinner table with them, he said that a lot too.
Kent, your morris desperation is as bad as John’s desperation on the campaign trail. Attacking CJ and his blog because he doesn’t support your guy is pretty lame.
It’ll be nice to have this primary over with. Then John can go on and get an entry level CAT job, since he has no real experience after his 1,345,546,443 internships he had in DC and his failed WTVP fundraising.
Who knows maybe we will be talking about how John Morris bankrupted CAT 10 years from now. He’s on a roll why stop now.
And Richard Grawey wins by a landslide in November!
In the end, it will probably come down to Morris and Mac. Under the circumstances, it is very unlikely that conservatives will be able to vote for Schock.
Morris vs Mac,
I couldn’t disagree more.
It will likely end up being between Schock and McConoughey with Morris taking votes from McConoughey. In all the polls the campaigns put out they all pointed to Morris as being last by a large percentage. Which is probably why the Morris campaign hasn’t put out a poll to the public or even mentioned one.
Unfortunately, this is the last big moment for Morris’s mediocre political and professional career. He will likely never run or hold office after this primary and we all know he was let go from WTVP and will need to seek other employment after Feb 5th. He has no other option than to see this through to the end.
11Bravo, I respectfully disagree. Most conservatives believe deeply in traditional values, which means they probably won’t vote for Schock.
The polling you reference was generated through dirty tricks on the part of the Schock campaign. It is unreliable. Besides, it is almost impossible to poll a primary campaign. Just look at the New Hampshire primary last week.
McConoughey’s poll confirmed the same as Schock as far as Morris is concerned. He is last by a longshot. If those numbers were grossly innaccurate than Morris’s campaign would have released a contrary poll, which hasn’t happened for obvious reasons.
As for the conservative bit, all three represent roughly the same social value beliefs. The only difference being Morris is on the lunatic fringe on his abortion beliefs, even among conservatives. His no exception abortion stance is not a widely held position.
Also, while I agree that polling has its issues, especially when it comes to push polling, the New Hampshire example doesn’t apply here.
None of these campaigns is exciting new primary voters to any great extent. That is what changed the New Hampshire poll when compared to the actual results. Nor is the republican presidential campaign attracting new voters. That’s likely going to result in the usual hard R’s (which are the ones used in the polls) being the only republican primary voters. Dems and independents will vote in the Dem primary in droves because it is a much more exciting race for them.
Well, I guess everything else I said in my post rung true. CJ, I thought that was you on the barbershop quartet thing, but if it wasn’t then I take it back. I did give specifics on issues – specifically the one that is most important to each of the candidates(national security for Schok and Morris and the economy for Mac). In terms of lacking substance would you seriously need me to take 5 or 6 4-word quotes from any of the candidates to say they did not have substance in their answers. I think we could do that in any campaign debate in history with any candidate.
I like CJ’s blog as well as BD’s. They are probably the two best political blogs in the Peoria area. I wouldn’t be posting on them if I didn’t think so. I never attacked the blog, bravado1.1, only the disingenuous, “I liked Morris before, but after the debate I can’t say I like him anymore.” That is simply not true based on previous posts. CJ says Morris cleared up the wtvp thing, but I never saw a post on that – just the one attacking Morris about it so I guess I’ll take that one back too.
I really don’t know how you could like Morris before the two debates and afterwards not still like him more than McConoughey. Doesn’t make sense to me, that’s all. Was there really something that McConoughey said where you were blown away..anyone, anyone…Bueller? “Wow, after that hour he is my guy.” – No way. McConoughey is seriously like a boring Al Gore during the debates. He is tough to listen to.
No desperation here. I am going to get up and go to work February 5, the same way I get up and go to work Feb 6. I did with Clinton in the White House for 8 years 🙂 and I’ll do the same whichever one of these candidates wins the nomination.
We all know the knocks on Schock, from his age, to his lies about who he supports for President, to the nukes to Taiwan, to his less than conservative lifestyle choices, but we don’t hear much about McConoughey. How about the fact he was going around telling everyone he was worth hundreds of millions when he is only worth 1 million? How about the fact that he is the third best communicator in the group? How about the fact that he thinks our economy is the number one issue over our national security.
I’ve visited each of the candidate’s websites and in terms of laying out on the issues I would go
1)Morris
2)McConoughey
3)Schock
You can’t disagree with that, can you CJ?
There is some good substance on the issues from Morris there and his stances are better than either Schock’s or McConoughey’s. I realize I was not up on the race as well as I should have been, but looking at the candidates Morris is clearly the best.
McConoughey just moved back to the area a few years ago. Morris and Schock have been in the area for a long time. Plus, each has worked in the area of politics for 8 and 5 years respectively. Schock may be young, but McConoughey has ZERO political experience – NONE. Does that matter to people at all? Obviously, somebody can move somewhere and run for office – Hillary did it and it worked out fine for her so maybe that just doesn’t matter to people – the commitment to the area.
Mac doesn’t have the financial support to finish the campaign strong and everyone has to agree that he and Morris can’t sit back, keep doing what they’re doing, and still have a hope of winning. I liked what Morris did by calling Schock out on some things. That’s politics. While McConoughey is wasting his little bit of money on a push poll – come on Bravado1.1, you can’t seriously take McConoughey’s poll for real (What was it – 3 months ago?) Morris is using his money on commerials and mailings from what I’ve seen, not weak push polls that don’t mean anything. Surprised that McConoughey hasn’t released any polls recently, but more surprising that Schock’s own poll was actually reported on by the news. Anybody find that distressing at all? Aaron’s poll showed McConoughey at 14% and Morris at 4%. Morris hadn’t run any commercials yet…at all while McConoughey was spending presumably thousands on billboards in October. I’d be interested to see how that looks now. Plus, these were Aaron’s own push polls. You think he’s going to show his toughest competitor closer to himself. Of course not:) He wants to show Morris as far back as possible. Also, Bravado, if you really think Morris was fired then not only do you have a bad sense of humor, but you are not very smart either. He took a leave of absence. Nobody, but nobody has ever said he was fired. You’re simply making stuff up now, Aaron…I mean, Bravado.
And for what it is worth, CJ, I wish you would post even more frequently. I enjoy your blogs, even if I don’t always agree with them. Keep it up. (Sincere)
I look for more hilarious Bravado, “Is John a conservative?” Keep it up, Bravo. Those are awesome! 🙂 (Sarcastic)
Wow, that post got out of hand. If anybody besides CJ and bravo read that one then hats off to you. The Colts lost and New England’s going to win the superbowl so since I didn’t want to watch any football anymore I just got a little bored.
From what I recall, John did say he was a conservative. Can anyone verify that?
Oh, and anyone who sat through the debate last week and thought that John came off sane, let alone the winner, is either related to John or has been sucking on peyote for the last eleven years.
Prego man: I totally agree
Kent: We all get it, you support Morris. But from the looks of it you are in the minority. No one in their right mind would have thought that Morris looked good at that debate. He looked crazed and angry. Not to mention the fact that he didn’t actually answer a single question; He just gave general statements with regards to the questions topic. Totally transparent.
Kent,
Obviously you feel threatened because people aren’t drinking the same kool-aid as you.
Nice attempt to make fun of my username, but let me enlighten you a bit. 11B (or 11 Bravo) is the military occupation specialty for the US Army Infantryman. Which is what I am in the National Guard. Now, not out of respect for me but for the others who share that designation I’d ask that you refrain from your attempt at being witty by referring to it as bravado or bravado 1.1 or any other disrespectful name you may have.
Its ironic that you support a candidate who is supposedly number one on national security and disrespect those who protect this country as a result of your personal ignorance.
On the topic of security you seem to think Morris is hands down the candidate for that issue. However I’d like to ask why, if that is the case, Morris’s plan is pretty poor at best. It is basically a confirmation of support for what is already being done in the field. Once again a sign of your ignorance.
Going back to the polls, you discredit McConoughey’s poll from 3 months ago, but rely on a story that came out a mere two weeks after he announced to report he has no money. I find that hard to believe, given the fact that both of the other candidates were in the race for nearly two months when the FEC report was filed, that McConoughey’s fundraising hasn’t already caught up to Morris’s.
So please Kent, keep making a fool of yourself. Keep insulting people who disagree with you because you don’t have the mental aptitude to form a coherent argument.
Why don’t we all just wait to see what happens in 3 weeks.
We have no choice BUT to wait for 3 weeks to see what happens.
But, without discussing it, throwing it up in the air, spinning it, cursing it, and generally just running it into the ground, there’d be no reason to have a blog now, would there?
Nice rebuttal.
Don’t say McConoughey does not have money because…he might?
Don’t say national security is the top priority over the economy because it isn’t(Oh,you didn’t say that.)
I do like Morris’s plans of no time tables being set and that we must finish the job in Iraq. Did the other two have a much different approach to that or a more detailed plan laid out on their websites – no. I said I liked the fact that Morris’s top priority was national security whereas Mac’s top priority is the economy.
McConoughey’s poll being a few months ago was a push poll. That has nothing to do with timing. I discredited Schock’s poll as well because it was…a push poll, but not when it came out.
Yes, Mac probably has more money than what he raised from Lahood back a few months ago, but if so I haven’t seen any mailings or commercials. How much more could he have and why isn’t he on radio and tv if he does have more? He loaned his own campaign money, but the proof is in the pudding.
Save your breath folks, it’s all about money and organization. The most money and the best organization will win, that’s a sad fact of todays polictics, not who the best candidate is. None of these three will make a difference if they win.
Geez, Roman…Debbie Downer over here. I think any of them could make a difference, but it just depends on how much.
Bravo, easer d on kent, alright. So he called you bravado. Big woop. I respect the military, but that doesn’t mean there can’t be a play on your name. I think I’m going to change my name to Jesus and then nobody will rebut my comments:) Also, your comeback was kind of weak.
And hey, Tolstoy, I mean, Kent, go back to watching football okay. I seriously don’t have time to read your posts and have a job:) although the Napoleon Dynamite comment about McConoughey was super funny.
McConoughey is way out of his league when it comes to these debates.
My opinion is that Mac was third in the debate.
Also, I will not vote for Schock.
Morris did a poll yesterday. It had push poll questions. They asked who do you support, Morris, McConaughey or Schock, then asked about Morris’ TV ad and then if you beleive the Bible is the word of God. Are you conservative, moderate or liberal. Then several push poll negative questions about Schock on the Taiwan stuff. After that they asked again who do you support. The second part is a push poll, but I’d like to know the results for the question on who do you support BEFORE they got into the push questions. Kent, you gonna release your poll? Are you closer to McConoughey now? You said McConoughey and Schock’s polls were “push polls.” How is yours different? I wrote down the questions. It was Wilson Research polling company.